I just reread the essay, and I saw that Tufte answers one of my questions in the conclusion. He says that Powerpoint should be used for low-resolution videos and pictures that can't be reproduced in handouts. Okay. I agree with that.
I have a new question. Tufte criticizes Powerpoint for forcing people to simplify whatever they're trying to say. What's wrong with simplification? "Simplifying" and "dumbing down" are not synonyms. Maybe this just shows that I'm stupid, but I think it's a good idea to use simple wording to express ideas. If you simplify your ideas well (without generalizing), you'll be able to express your ideas more clearly. People can spend more time thinking about your ideas, rather than trying to figure out what you're trying to say.
(although, I shouldn't be talking... I ramble on and on when I don't really have anything to say.)
Monday, October 29, 2007
The Cognative Style of Powerpoint (Kimberly)
Was it just me or is Tufte saying Powerpoint is Communist?
1. Is the responsibilty of the loss of information soley on the system Powerpoint or is the responsibily on the presenter (user) lack of being able to use it?
2. I understand the importance of documents and the written word and how it can translate information better than PP; however, aren't the purpose of presentations to provide the concised version of the information on the written documnet? Isn't the system Powerpoint just one of tool to help get the point across?
I agree that Powerpoint can't be the only source in which an information is given ( like in the case of the NASA presentation) but I don't see why it should be discarded in presenting "serious matters".
1. Is the responsibilty of the loss of information soley on the system Powerpoint or is the responsibily on the presenter (user) lack of being able to use it?
2. I understand the importance of documents and the written word and how it can translate information better than PP; however, aren't the purpose of presentations to provide the concised version of the information on the written documnet? Isn't the system Powerpoint just one of tool to help get the point across?
I agree that Powerpoint can't be the only source in which an information is given ( like in the case of the NASA presentation) but I don't see why it should be discarded in presenting "serious matters".
Tufte: The Cognative Style of Powerpoint
1) I'm curious as to why NASA used powerpoints during the Columbia Shuttle disaster. It seems counter to what a major scientific research organization would do. The problem here is with assumptions about what powerpoint was intended for. The idea of a powerpoint being sent in through email as a form of documentation defeats the purpose of any kind of a presentation intended to go along with it. What was NASA thinking?
2) Tufte's criticism of powerpoint in schools seemed harsh. As a recent high school graduate I feel that from my high school experience I was not taught that powerpoint and papers were comparable. Rather that they were merely a tool to be used with a strong presentation in order to convey a much more expansive issue, which in most cases should be documented anyway. Why does Tufte criticize powerpoint so much? It can be detrimental if used in the wrong situation, for example NASA, but used properly it can be an invaluable tool used to convey ideas to a large group cleanly an efficiently.
2) Tufte's criticism of powerpoint in schools seemed harsh. As a recent high school graduate I feel that from my high school experience I was not taught that powerpoint and papers were comparable. Rather that they were merely a tool to be used with a strong presentation in order to convey a much more expansive issue, which in most cases should be documented anyway. Why does Tufte criticize powerpoint so much? It can be detrimental if used in the wrong situation, for example NASA, but used properly it can be an invaluable tool used to convey ideas to a large group cleanly an efficiently.
Tufte's Powerpoint Essay
When I first learned how to use Powerpoint (I was in middle school), I was taught that a Powerpoint presentation should not stand alone. Presenters should be able to talk about the subject they're presenting without relying on Powerpoint. Most of what Tufte criticizes relates to overly generalized statements and misinterpreted statistics. What would happen if Powerpoint presentations didn't have any words at all, so that the Powerpoint only existed to serve as a visual aid for whatever the presenter was talking about? Would this solve the problems that Tufte talks about?
Also, I understand that Tufte says that the image quality goes down a lot in Powerpoints. I was confused. Is he talking about how people use Clipart instead of actual photographs? Or is he saying that the resolution of photographs is too low to be useful?
One more question. Artists and other non-mainstream people tend to have an anti-Microsoft bias. How much does this influence Tufte's point of view? If Powerpoint was developed by Apple, do you think that Tufte would hold the same point of view? (not that I know absolutely nothing about Tufte other than the fact that he wrote this essay. For all I know, he could work for Microsoft.)
Also, I understand that Tufte says that the image quality goes down a lot in Powerpoints. I was confused. Is he talking about how people use Clipart instead of actual photographs? Or is he saying that the resolution of photographs is too low to be useful?
One more question. Artists and other non-mainstream people tend to have an anti-Microsoft bias. How much does this influence Tufte's point of view? If Powerpoint was developed by Apple, do you think that Tufte would hold the same point of view? (not that I know absolutely nothing about Tufte other than the fact that he wrote this essay. For all I know, he could work for Microsoft.)
I disagree.
i pretty much learned nothing in this, lol. regarding powerpoint and any essay in general, information is always broken down, even if your writing an essay, because you edit it out and change it and you still can't get everything on your mind across. i think the idea should not be how to present better, but how to organize your thoughts more. if you can talk about whatever you have to present fluently it doesent really matter what kind of method you use to get your point across.
book about power point
i have no idea why the columbia space deaster was because of power point?
with power point you show alot of people simple broken down information, but wont this leave them lacking information and details of what is happening?
with power point you show alot of people simple broken down information, but wont this leave them lacking information and details of what is happening?
The Cognative Style of Powerpoint
There was not a lot that i didn't understand about this reading - except for the fact that the whole time, i thought that the objective of the book was to describe how much more effective powerpoints were, whew - but my two questions are:
1. What was the pitch style that they were describing on page 11 durring the topic of the unnessary outline?
2.They lost me on p 16-17: "Identifying specific agents of action may also eventually assist forensic accountants and prosecutors in targetting those responsiblr for excessively accelerated recognition of revenue." -they lost me right here i have no clue what that sentance says or means... i think its just too verbose maybe, iono.
1. What was the pitch style that they were describing on page 11 durring the topic of the unnessary outline?
2.They lost me on p 16-17: "Identifying specific agents of action may also eventually assist forensic accountants and prosecutors in targetting those responsiblr for excessively accelerated recognition of revenue." -they lost me right here i have no clue what that sentance says or means... i think its just too verbose maybe, iono.
the cognitive style of powerpoint.
two questions;
1. i feel like i learned nothing from reading this, except maybe some about nasa &the columbia shuttle. i don't understand why tufte is so bitter &cynical toward powerpoint. if he believes there is a better way to make presentations, then why not just make better presentations? tufte has all kinds of negative criticisms, but as seen in the one-page "improving presentations" out of a thirty-page writing, no real suggestions.
2. does tufte understand that powerpoint is taught to children in schools to teach them public speaking? i doubt many legitimate educators dismiss essays &papers &replace them with powerpoint presentation assignments. it is true that the rules of the english language and syntax are ignored or lost in the formation of data on powerpoint slides, but recalling data by the prompt of a bullet note &being able to speak well &give a coherent presentation before a group of people is a skill i believe children gain from learning in school.
1. i feel like i learned nothing from reading this, except maybe some about nasa &the columbia shuttle. i don't understand why tufte is so bitter &cynical toward powerpoint. if he believes there is a better way to make presentations, then why not just make better presentations? tufte has all kinds of negative criticisms, but as seen in the one-page "improving presentations" out of a thirty-page writing, no real suggestions.
2. does tufte understand that powerpoint is taught to children in schools to teach them public speaking? i doubt many legitimate educators dismiss essays &papers &replace them with powerpoint presentation assignments. it is true that the rules of the english language and syntax are ignored or lost in the formation of data on powerpoint slides, but recalling data by the prompt of a bullet note &being able to speak well &give a coherent presentation before a group of people is a skill i believe children gain from learning in school.
Sunday, October 28, 2007
2 questions
The Work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction.
1. Reproduction: it is made by people who want to fill selfishness. They wanted to have quality of the art in low prices. However, the reproduction has positive and negative parts such as people could earn education or the lost of aura of real one, the value of the work, are missing. The reproduction are deep into our lives if it is can not be reject there could be many ways to make this to more positive. What people need to do? Moreover, what is aura? What is value of the work? In the book, the author mentions “the accent is on the value”, “the exhibition value of the work.” What is different?
2. There are some of step of reproduction such as copying the work, by the photo, by computer, movie, and advertising. Furthermore, what is gab between audience and artist? Is that really impact the audience because there are mechanical system between art work and audience? Moreover, is mechanical reproduction not art?
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The cognitive style of power point: pitching out corrupts within
1. Even the Power Point lost their meaning; there are many great power points that are use for the business. It could be unmeaning or no useful but there are plenty ways to make this power point work better.
2. The Edward R. Tufte’s idea of the good power point might works good for most people. However, I think it is more personal thing. I mean it could be more weight on personal opinion. I greed with simplify of the design of presentation and text. They are good ideas but sometime people need more word or more expiation. I think people need develops their own way to make good presentation.
1. Reproduction: it is made by people who want to fill selfishness. They wanted to have quality of the art in low prices. However, the reproduction has positive and negative parts such as people could earn education or the lost of aura of real one, the value of the work, are missing. The reproduction are deep into our lives if it is can not be reject there could be many ways to make this to more positive. What people need to do? Moreover, what is aura? What is value of the work? In the book, the author mentions “the accent is on the value”, “the exhibition value of the work.” What is different?
2. There are some of step of reproduction such as copying the work, by the photo, by computer, movie, and advertising. Furthermore, what is gab between audience and artist? Is that really impact the audience because there are mechanical system between art work and audience? Moreover, is mechanical reproduction not art?
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The cognitive style of power point: pitching out corrupts within
1. Even the Power Point lost their meaning; there are many great power points that are use for the business. It could be unmeaning or no useful but there are plenty ways to make this power point work better.
2. The Edward R. Tufte’s idea of the good power point might works good for most people. However, I think it is more personal thing. I mean it could be more weight on personal opinion. I greed with simplify of the design of presentation and text. They are good ideas but sometime people need more word or more expiation. I think people need develops their own way to make good presentation.
2 questions on cognitive style of powerpoint
1. When the article refers to the shuttle columbia, Tufte explains how NASA created a series of powerpoints in a life or death situation. I don't really understand why they created powerpoints. If someone was in a life or death situation shouldn't NASA get together and have a meeting about the factors they could do, beside send everyone a powerpoint email about the situation?
2. Tufte constantly refers to stupid people making powerpoints in serious cases. He stresses that powerpoints should be presented, rather than printed out or sent through an e-mail. NASA never created formal documentation about the shuttle Columbia; instead they made powerpoints. My question is: why didn't people make a formal document? Why did these people make a powerpoint slide when they could have easily written up a document? I don't understand why people would consider a powerpoint slide a documentation for a specific period, even though a powerpoint is meant to be presented rather than used for hard copy.
2. Tufte constantly refers to stupid people making powerpoints in serious cases. He stresses that powerpoints should be presented, rather than printed out or sent through an e-mail. NASA never created formal documentation about the shuttle Columbia; instead they made powerpoints. My question is: why didn't people make a formal document? Why did these people make a powerpoint slide when they could have easily written up a document? I don't understand why people would consider a powerpoint slide a documentation for a specific period, even though a powerpoint is meant to be presented rather than used for hard copy.
Tufte read
I have to say That I agree with Tufte on the subject of teaching powerpoint to children. I had to write reports as a child and I benefitted from the task. Question one is why in this day and age of children having more and more less satisfactory testing scores do we feel the need to dumb down the lessons. When did it become more beneficial to substitute powerpoint for the tried and true test of research that is the report? Secondly how can we justify the use of such unreliable methods of analysis (powerpoint) in billion dollar government institutions that are funded by taxpayers dollars? I mean, I am not a rocket scientist yet I could have presented an equally informative PP. Who is setting the standards here? Microsoft?
Monday, October 22, 2007
Powerpoint Reading
1) Tufte is very negative towards Powerpoint, and i don't understand why. i love Powerpoint. but anyway, i had some issues with a few things he said. first, he was very against students being taught powerpoint in school. why? i think it is beneficial in that it organizes thoughts, they will need to use it when they are older, and it teaches to paraphrase. i understand that writing papers are better, but i think that powerpoint is a useful tool to know. so i guess my question is, why is teaching powerpoint to children so bad?
2) one part in the book where i didn't underatnd what Tufte was explaining was when he was talking about showing multiple slides on page 6 in the 3rd papragraph. i don't understand what he is saying and how this is beneficial.
2) one part in the book where i didn't underatnd what Tufte was explaining was when he was talking about showing multiple slides on page 6 in the 3rd papragraph. i don't understand what he is saying and how this is beneficial.
Monday, October 15, 2007
right brain vs. left brain
this is a really cool link that i found.
try this and see what side of your brain you use more!
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try this and see what side of your brain you use more!
click here!
Monday, October 1, 2007
brennans art and age
in film whould you consider the director the soal artistof the film,
in photography why is the first print worth more thatn the rest if they are identical? couldent you switch them?
in photography why is the first print worth more thatn the rest if they are identical? couldent you switch them?
Two Questions
Is the act of captioning a photograph the same detraction from the original functionality of art the way photography itself as another way to simply gian the aura of reality in the pursuit of the real thing?
Does the lack of the actor's connection with the audience force us to only watch the most universal actors, that is ones whose performance can translate beyond the limited scope of the film?
Does the lack of the actor's connection with the audience force us to only watch the most universal actors, that is ones whose performance can translate beyond the limited scope of the film?
Mechanical Reproduction
First of all... let me just say that this reading was thoroughly exhausting!
My questions came straight out of the reading:
1. What does this mean or what is it referring to: "In the case of the art object, a most sensitive nucleus - namely, its authenticity - is interfered with whereas no natural object is vulnerable on that score."
2. What specifically are they referring to when they say the "cult of beauty"?
My questions came straight out of the reading:
1. What does this mean or what is it referring to: "In the case of the art object, a most sensitive nucleus - namely, its authenticity - is interfered with whereas no natural object is vulnerable on that score."
2. What specifically are they referring to when they say the "cult of beauty"?
first things first &the work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction.
two questions;
1. why did the 22 visual designers feel the need to write &sign the 2000 design manifesto when the work an artist does is truly the individual artist's choice? designers are not being forced to put their talents toward certain areas. artists who feel their expertise &help is needed in the areas of cultural interventions, social marketing campaigns, books, magazines, exhibitions, educational tools, television programs, films, charitable causes, etc., should focus their work toward these areas. artists who believe their skills are more useful in advertising, marketing, and brand development should not be made to feel guilty if that is the work they choose to utilize their talents in. artists should create what they want to &what they feel is important, not what other designers tell them to. who decides what is "worthwhile use?"
2. in reading the paragraph that introduces the idea of the surgeon &the magician in "the work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction," the preceding material in the essay gave me the idea that benjamin was referring to the painter as the surgeon &the cameraman as the magician. did anyone else feel this way, that benjamin would consider the painter a surgeon, diminishing the distance between himself and his work, and the cameraman a magician, creating in hiding "multiple fragments which are assembled under a new law?" i was confused &surprised when his opinions were clarified in the following paragraph ("the painter maintains in his work a natural distance from reality, the cameraman penetrates deeply into its web") because i was originally so intrigued by the comparison.
1. why did the 22 visual designers feel the need to write &sign the 2000 design manifesto when the work an artist does is truly the individual artist's choice? designers are not being forced to put their talents toward certain areas. artists who feel their expertise &help is needed in the areas of cultural interventions, social marketing campaigns, books, magazines, exhibitions, educational tools, television programs, films, charitable causes, etc., should focus their work toward these areas. artists who believe their skills are more useful in advertising, marketing, and brand development should not be made to feel guilty if that is the work they choose to utilize their talents in. artists should create what they want to &what they feel is important, not what other designers tell them to. who decides what is "worthwhile use?"
2. in reading the paragraph that introduces the idea of the surgeon &the magician in "the work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction," the preceding material in the essay gave me the idea that benjamin was referring to the painter as the surgeon &the cameraman as the magician. did anyone else feel this way, that benjamin would consider the painter a surgeon, diminishing the distance between himself and his work, and the cameraman a magician, creating in hiding "multiple fragments which are assembled under a new law?" i was confused &surprised when his opinions were clarified in the following paragraph ("the painter maintains in his work a natural distance from reality, the cameraman penetrates deeply into its web") because i was originally so intrigued by the comparison.
Essay Questions, etc.
I realize that I'm posting this less than an hour before class starts, so the chances of someone seeing this are slim, but I'd like to respond to Bill's post... I agree that we are getting back into the t echnical aspects of art with the advent of film. I feel like any time there is a new medium, it's a good idea to explore the technical aspects of the medium (and try to "hide our hands"), and really understand the way that medium works, before exploring the conceptual possibilities of that medium (uhh, sorry if that didn't make any sense...).
Okay, now here are my questions:
1. What is the value of a painting or a drawing in today's society, where we have photography and video and digital art? Do paintings still have a function? I think the essay may have explained this, but I didn't understand.
2. Benjamin talked about the function of art changing in today's society. I just want to clarify... I thought that Benjamin felt that before photography, a piece of art was important because it was a piece of art. Because art was not easily accessible, a painting was precious... sort-of in thte same way that a diamond is precious. And now, after photography, art isn't so precious... more people can view art, so art for the sake of art doesn't really exist any more. So, the purpose of art is... different. I'm not sure what Benjamin said, but I think it's to communicate an idea.
Is this right? Or, am I just putting words into Benjamin's mouth?
Okay, now here are my questions:
1. What is the value of a painting or a drawing in today's society, where we have photography and video and digital art? Do paintings still have a function? I think the essay may have explained this, but I didn't understand.
2. Benjamin talked about the function of art changing in today's society. I just want to clarify... I thought that Benjamin felt that before photography, a piece of art was important because it was a piece of art. Because art was not easily accessible, a painting was precious... sort-of in thte same way that a diamond is precious. And now, after photography, art isn't so precious... more people can view art, so art for the sake of art doesn't really exist any more. So, the purpose of art is... different. I'm not sure what Benjamin said, but I think it's to communicate an idea.
Is this right? Or, am I just putting words into Benjamin's mouth?
Questions about Benjamin reading...
1. In the second section, Benjamin states that, "The presence of the original is the prerequisite to the concept of authenticity." This statement caught my attention because it relates to some of the questions brought up by our Manovich reading. It seems a common element in discussing reproduced art is the concept of the original. In this day and age, however, most of our mass produced digital art really has no true original. According to Benjamin's statement, doesn't that fact jeopardize the art's authenticity?
2. Right from the very beginning of this reading, Benjamin jumps into a whole batch of political ideas dealing with Marx, and fascism. I understand how he incorporates capitalism into his points, but I'm having trouble finding relevance in his other political mentionings. I'm not personally very familiar with politics, fascism especially, so I'm sure that doesn't help much, but Benjamin's whole preface just seems to be a jumble of political analysis. I think he's talking about present day modes of production, and their effects on art, but that small point seems to be lost in his philosophical wordiness.
2. Right from the very beginning of this reading, Benjamin jumps into a whole batch of political ideas dealing with Marx, and fascism. I understand how he incorporates capitalism into his points, but I'm having trouble finding relevance in his other political mentionings. I'm not personally very familiar with politics, fascism especially, so I'm sure that doesn't help much, but Benjamin's whole preface just seems to be a jumble of political analysis. I think he's talking about present day modes of production, and their effects on art, but that small point seems to be lost in his philosophical wordiness.
emily's questions-walter benjamin
this reading was tough. i think i understood the part about film the most. i kind of want just a general explanation, but here are my 2 specific questions-
"the result was that one could expect it not only to exploit the proletariat with increasing intensity, but ultimately to create conditions which would make it possible to abolish capitalism itself." what? how?
he compares art that is in a fixed place to art that can be moved to different locations. is it more important for the art to be viewed in its original location, or for the art to be accessible to lots of people?
"the result was that one could expect it not only to exploit the proletariat with increasing intensity, but ultimately to create conditions which would make it possible to abolish capitalism itself." what? how?
he compares art that is in a fixed place to art that can be moved to different locations. is it more important for the art to be viewed in its original location, or for the art to be accessible to lots of people?
kim's questions #2
1. what is the relationship between the aura, the audience, the authenticity, and tradition. Does the aura diminish when the relationship of the audience and the art diminishes or is it when the audience becomes "absent-minded".
2. The functionality of art was questioned in this paper, the function of l'art pour l'art, the "negative theology", is it the destruction of the "aura"?
2. The functionality of art was questioned in this paper, the function of l'art pour l'art, the "negative theology", is it the destruction of the "aura"?
walter benjamin questions
my first question is from section 8. benjamin is giving an example of how the audience identifies with the actor through what the camera portrays. in this paragraph is he trying to show an example of exhibition value which he mentioned earlier, but i felt he never really explained?
my second question is from the epilogue. i understood the whole reading pretty well, but the epilogue really confused me. i don't understand how he relates facism to reproduction and the other things in the reading. so i guess my question is, how does fascism relate to the reading?
my second question is from the epilogue. i understood the whole reading pretty well, but the epilogue really confused me. i don't understand how he relates facism to reproduction and the other things in the reading. so i guess my question is, how does fascism relate to the reading?
Two Questions 10/ 01/ 07
1.)With the advent of computer animation in film are we finally giving back the technical and hands on aspects of art back to the artist and at the same time losing the need for the actor?
2.) If so would it be appropriate to disregard this as Duhamel regards it as being "a pastime for helots"?
2.) If so would it be appropriate to disregard this as Duhamel regards it as being "a pastime for helots"?
charde post
1. does the author feel that the actor takes away the value or artistry of films?
2. because an audeince are given what to see instead of devoloping there own observation, does it lack authenticity, have the movie-makers removed art out films, and does that really matter any more in today society?
2. because an audeince are given what to see instead of devoloping there own observation, does it lack authenticity, have the movie-makers removed art out films, and does that really matter any more in today society?
Sunday, September 30, 2007
responding to justin's note on magicians and film makers
i disagree with the idea that the film maker's hand is not in the work. if i see a tim burton film i can always tell it was his because it clearly has his hand and his doings in it. my concept in defense of this is that the way a film maker applies his hand is in the form of the idea. the entire film is an exerpt of their imagination manifested in psysical communicating form. how they choose to interpret their idea, and apply their concepts of aesthetics are all a part of their own hand.
i would actually like to sign the bottom of the first things first essay. i completely agree with their take on capitalism. in the benjamin essay he presents us with the idea that int he past art served as a functional thing, a thing that was generally spiritual. in todays society, with its growing technology, we have grown and changed as well. art serves a different function, but it still functions. art serves as an advertising function. people are now exploiting art's concept of retaliation and how it can legislate political views, and they have turned it in their favor. what are we going to do in response to this? looking back on history, what has happened is we have become subject to change. but what can we change? what can we do now? how can we choose to move on further? the only logical thing that comes to mind is what was mentioned earlier in the benjamin essay, which was looking into karl marx's statements on capitalism is that capitalism was going to destroy itself by its own hand.
i would actually like to sign the bottom of the first things first essay. i completely agree with their take on capitalism. in the benjamin essay he presents us with the idea that int he past art served as a functional thing, a thing that was generally spiritual. in todays society, with its growing technology, we have grown and changed as well. art serves a different function, but it still functions. art serves as an advertising function. people are now exploiting art's concept of retaliation and how it can legislate political views, and they have turned it in their favor. what are we going to do in response to this? looking back on history, what has happened is we have become subject to change. but what can we change? what can we do now? how can we choose to move on further? the only logical thing that comes to mind is what was mentioned earlier in the benjamin essay, which was looking into karl marx's statements on capitalism is that capitalism was going to destroy itself by its own hand.
Justin Price questions to reading long...
1) Is there any difference between or classifications between the concepts of "process reproduction" and "technical reproduction" as well as "manual reproduction" and "mechanical reproduction", or are they simply reworded statements used to describe identical
ideas? And if they are groups of classifications that do differ, are there further subgroups with these concepts of reproduction?
2) In section IX the article likens film makers to "magicians" in that their hands never touch the reproduced image but isn't this false? In olden times and even more so in current times, don't film makers have a very active role in how the world is presented, not only in story or physiologically but through lighting, various equipments used, people and scenarios portrays and so on?
ideas? And if they are groups of classifications that do differ, are there further subgroups with these concepts of reproduction?
2) In section IX the article likens film makers to "magicians" in that their hands never touch the reproduced image but isn't this false? In olden times and even more so in current times, don't film makers have a very active role in how the world is presented, not only in story or physiologically but through lighting, various equipments used, people and scenarios portrays and so on?
wow
Yeah this reading was very confusing.
my first question is if this paper actually had a structure to it. I kind of noticed a pattern the way he was talking first about reproduction then about paintings and then videos, drama and stage work, and then dadaism. It was a lot of random things that i really dont know if it had a stucture. If it did I would be a lot less confused. I dont know what he was actually trying to prove.
my second question is I dont know what he meant when he kept on saying "cult". I kept picturing a secret cult in the middle of the woods dancing around a fire... but i'm sure thats not what he meant.
my first question is if this paper actually had a structure to it. I kind of noticed a pattern the way he was talking first about reproduction then about paintings and then videos, drama and stage work, and then dadaism. It was a lot of random things that i really dont know if it had a stucture. If it did I would be a lot less confused. I dont know what he was actually trying to prove.
my second question is I dont know what he meant when he kept on saying "cult". I kept picturing a secret cult in the middle of the woods dancing around a fire... but i'm sure thats not what he meant.
questions: ...Mechanical Reproduction
woah! This reading is intense. I feel very confused...
Is the author in favor of film or not? Most of the time I think he is, and then other times I can't tell.
I don't understand what he means when he talks about "aura" in part IX
"...the aura that envelops the actor vanishes, and with it the aura of the figure he portrays"
Is he saying that film is an art that poeple don't fully understand? part XV
"The public is an examiner, but an absent-minded one."
Is the author in favor of film or not? Most of the time I think he is, and then other times I can't tell.
I don't understand what he means when he talks about "aura" in part IX
"...the aura that envelops the actor vanishes, and with it the aura of the figure he portrays"
Is he saying that film is an art that poeple don't fully understand? part XV
"The public is an examiner, but an absent-minded one."
Monday, September 24, 2007
uploading problems etc.
Hey guys,
Sabrina contacted ryan and he said that if it is impossible for you to upload make sure to bring in your flash drive with you image as well as all of your source images on it. If you do so I think you s hould be ok (also you have to have your print... duh) but do that and I think you'll be ok.
Hope this helps!
Madeline
p.s. if you have time and you can contact ryan and double check with him
Sabrina contacted ryan and he said that if it is impossible for you to upload make sure to bring in your flash drive with you image as well as all of your source images on it. If you do so I think you s hould be ok (also you have to have your print... duh) but do that and I think you'll be ok.
Hope this helps!
Madeline
p.s. if you have time and you can contact ryan and double check with him
me too.
i also am having trouble uploading.
i tried several times yesterday and today but it doesn't work.
i wonder what we should do?!?
i tried several times yesterday and today but it doesn't work.
i wonder what we should do?!?
Sunday, September 23, 2007
upload issues.
is anyone else having problems uploading their files to turn in?
mine sit at the upload page for up to fifteen minutes ¬hing happens until my internet says the connection was reset.
they're not enormous files.
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mine sit at the upload page for up to fifteen minutes ¬hing happens until my internet says the connection was reset.
they're not enormous files.
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Sunday, September 16, 2007
digital and hardware questions
#1. In relation to colored artwork would it be better to keep the images in a photorealistic jpeg format, png, or gif?
#2. Is it important to convert RGB pictures to CMYK when printing them?
#2. Is it important to convert RGB pictures to CMYK when printing them?
Thursday, September 13, 2007
Cha cha cha cha cha cha check it out.
So today when I logged onto the internet my home page opened up to a web-article about an "expressive robot boy" and I thought it was very relevant to the subject of AI disscussed in out last reading.
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
check this out!
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/37010
this is what 1964 wanted computers to be like..
I thought it was kind of relevent to what we were discussing in class.
this is what 1964 wanted computers to be like..
I thought it was kind of relevent to what we were discussing in class.
Monday, September 10, 2007
The article itself was informative and interesting but at times seemed to make sketchy connection between culture and something as simple and overlooked as GUI. Also the connection to Karl Marx's communist was poorly explained and rather unsettling.
My questions are...
1) What determines whether an interface behaves in a hierarchical manner or a hypertext manner, are they languages or merely constructs?
2) Is the medium of a media artist the program used of the code in which the art truly exists (i.e. Dream Weaver vs. HTML)?
Manovich 2 questions
1. Paragraph 5: The "non-transparency of the code" idea confuses me. Actually, the whole paragraph confuses me. Is cultural communication refering to the interface?
2. Paragraph 6: The cut and paste is "blind" to the traditional distinction between spatial and temporal media, scale and media. I don't understand what "renders insignificant distiction/blind" means in the "cut and paste" operation. What is a "temporal composition?"
2. Paragraph 6: The cut and paste is "blind" to the traditional distinction between spatial and temporal media, scale and media. I don't understand what "renders insignificant distiction/blind" means in the "cut and paste" operation. What is a "temporal composition?"
Sunday, September 9, 2007
Questions on the Interface...
I got through this reading aiight - even though it took forever to comprehend... and aside from some general questions about the purpose of this chapter, i think i understood most of it... but my 2 questions are:
- What does "meatspace" refer to?
- What is an example of a temporal composition, if temporal relates to time?- if thats even what temporal relates to.
the interface
my two questions are based on abbreviations in the reading that i didn't understand, and therefore, i had trouble understanding the text around it.
1) what does OS stand for, and how does it relate to the interface? it is mentioned twice, and in both areas i am confused by the context around it.
2) what does AI and AL stand for? the text around these abbrevations talks about the evolution paradigm which also confuses me, and i don't know how all of these terms relate.
1) what does OS stand for, and how does it relate to the interface? it is mentioned twice, and in both areas i am confused by the context around it.
2) what does AI and AL stand for? the text around these abbrevations talks about the evolution paradigm which also confuses me, and i don't know how all of these terms relate.
Questions from Manovich reading
numero uno.
If digital works of art are capable of being altered depending on the interface they are presented in, does this lack of formal integrity compromise their validity as works of art? By which I mean, if the Mona Lisa could be presented in multiple formats, and thus altered in form, would it still be as appreciated?
numero dos.
In the case of the AL approach in computer programming, the artist/programmer gives the computer certain guidelines or rules, by which the computer generates media data. Doesn't this process create an unacceptable level of detachment between the artist and the work? Is there anything to be appreciated about an "artist" who chooses the most hands-off approach possible: devising the guidelines and leaving the work (the real art-making) up to a machine? To illustrate: if DaVinci had given an apprentice certain rules or guidelines, and set him to work within them, are we really to give credit to DaVinci for what transpires, and what results?
If digital works of art are capable of being altered depending on the interface they are presented in, does this lack of formal integrity compromise their validity as works of art? By which I mean, if the Mona Lisa could be presented in multiple formats, and thus altered in form, would it still be as appreciated?
numero dos.
In the case of the AL approach in computer programming, the artist/programmer gives the computer certain guidelines or rules, by which the computer generates media data. Doesn't this process create an unacceptable level of detachment between the artist and the work? Is there anything to be appreciated about an "artist" who chooses the most hands-off approach possible: devising the guidelines and leaving the work (the real art-making) up to a machine? To illustrate: if DaVinci had given an apprentice certain rules or guidelines, and set him to work within them, are we really to give credit to DaVinci for what transpires, and what results?
The Interface
Not as an official question but as a very unofficial one, "Did anyone else love the reference to Matthew Barney and if so did anyone else start to listen to Bjork immediately after reading the first paragraph of the chapter?" because that is exactly what I did.
Anyway down to the questions:
1. Does the creation of the interface and therefore the connection that the human-computer interface has to the "information" society vs. the "industrial" society by combinding "work" and "leisure" applications in one space lead to a greater divide between these two groups of society?
2. If the content an artist has created within a certain interface is then filtered through a different interface does the content retain it's value as art? If not does this therefore diminsh the validity of the piece as a work of art?
Anyway down to the questions:
1. Does the creation of the interface and therefore the connection that the human-computer interface has to the "information" society vs. the "industrial" society by combinding "work" and "leisure" applications in one space lead to a greater divide between these two groups of society?
2. If the content an artist has created within a certain interface is then filtered through a different interface does the content retain it's value as art? If not does this therefore diminsh the validity of the piece as a work of art?
2 questions
why is there such a difference in work and recreation with the system?
at what point will a GUI became considered as art? would a informational web page be considered as art?
at what point will a GUI became considered as art? would a informational web page be considered as art?
the interface
I did not comprehend any of this. I'm guessing it's about the advancements in technology. . . A few things sunk in here and there, but what was the purpose of this chapter? Is it trying to explain all the functions of the GUI? Or how it has taken over so many tasks in our lives? I read this thing six times, but I just keep getting lost. I hate reading, but i tried.
Saturday, September 8, 2007
the interface.
two questions;
1. "in society, work and leisure activities... increasingly involve computer use..." at what point will work &play &all other ways in which we spend our time merge into being completely computer-dependent?
2. because artwork created digitally depends so much on the program in which it is created, which can itself be considered a work of art, is it a stretch to call the artwork a collaboration piece between "artist/s" &program designer/s?
1. "in society, work and leisure activities... increasingly involve computer use..." at what point will work &play &all other ways in which we spend our time merge into being completely computer-dependent?
2. because artwork created digitally depends so much on the program in which it is created, which can itself be considered a work of art, is it a stretch to call the artwork a collaboration piece between "artist/s" &program designer/s?
The Interface.
This article explains about the teachology and that it has permeated in modern society.
It has made changes in leisure as in work
so my questions are
1. The articles says that the technology has impacted on people's leiusre, then how does new digital technology impact on art in general? Would it substitute the current art museums if arts can be easily seen on websites? or would it bring any change in the current art forms? or would the make any new forms of art?
2. Although the technology enables people to communicate and obtain datas abroad, how would it enable "most" of the people to use the technology. There can be a language barrier preventing people from using other countries' interface. Then should all the interfaces be made with graphic so people can access the proper data regardless of the language barrier? Would it be possible?
It has made changes in leisure as in work
so my questions are
1. The articles says that the technology has impacted on people's leiusre, then how does new digital technology impact on art in general? Would it substitute the current art museums if arts can be easily seen on websites? or would it bring any change in the current art forms? or would the make any new forms of art?
2. Although the technology enables people to communicate and obtain datas abroad, how would it enable "most" of the people to use the technology. There can be a language barrier preventing people from using other countries' interface. Then should all the interfaces be made with graphic so people can access the proper data regardless of the language barrier? Would it be possible?
Thursday, September 6, 2007
Two Questions
My basic understanding of this text is that over a short period of time the GUI of computers and the like have substantially grown, or evolved into very complicated and sometimes unique tools from just one simple template. This constantly changing GUI also seems to be merging cultures by applying a universal language as well as satisfying the needs of both work and leisure. My Questions are-
#1. Could this template be limiting in all its apparent growth by not seeking other ways to accomplish similar goals? Meaning that we could be moving too fast in a direction and overlooking other options of giving and receiving information.
#2. Is it healthy to be entertained and work via the same device? Might this in fact make businesses too dependent on just one tool? Should a person truly spend leisurely time staring at the same tool?
O.K. I guess thats more than two Questions...................So heres one more
#$. People from around the globe are using similar GUI's and learning about eachother almost instantly. Is it safe to merge cultures with a unifying translator of this sort? Many culturally specific qualities could be lost or misunderstood in the process.
#1. Could this template be limiting in all its apparent growth by not seeking other ways to accomplish similar goals? Meaning that we could be moving too fast in a direction and overlooking other options of giving and receiving information.
#2. Is it healthy to be entertained and work via the same device? Might this in fact make businesses too dependent on just one tool? Should a person truly spend leisurely time staring at the same tool?
O.K. I guess thats more than two Questions...................So heres one more
#$. People from around the globe are using similar GUI's and learning about eachother almost instantly. Is it safe to merge cultures with a unifying translator of this sort? Many culturally specific qualities could be lost or misunderstood in the process.
Tuesday, September 4, 2007
response plus super.
ive never actually thought of computers the way they referenced them in this chapter. it's very interesting, because ive always felt computers to be lacking a little in the conceptual concept, but now i see that they are much more than that. im actually really starting to look foreward to our projects now, because i'd like to try a few things. i dont think the part about copying and pasting and such was a reference to plaigarism, because its just a tool that you can sue on anything, it would be the person who could potentially use that for copyright, but that could be done without the tool, and it would be noticed either way.
Sunday, September 2, 2007
Interface questions
... in art the connection between content and form is motivated: that is, the choice of a particular interface is motivated by a work's content to such degree that it can no longer be thought of as asperate level. Content and Interface merge into one entity, and no longer can be taken apart...
so my first question is why can we no longer look at content and form and new media as two different levels?
...the initial data suppied by the programmer acts as a genotype that expanded into full phenotype by the computer...
second question, is this the same thoery applied to the cut and paste actions? on page 4 or is the author explaining that a programmer is appointed the responsibilty in supplying the information with the help of a computer?
so my first question is why can we no longer look at content and form and new media as two different levels?
...the initial data suppied by the programmer acts as a genotype that expanded into full phenotype by the computer...
second question, is this the same thoery applied to the cut and paste actions? on page 4 or is the author explaining that a programmer is appointed the responsibilty in supplying the information with the help of a computer?
Saturday, September 1, 2007
Two Questions
1. One part of the reading that really puzzled me was on page 63 and three paragraphs down. It reads according to a Macintosh computer, " Of course while they run, OS and applications constantly create, write to, and erase various temporary files, as well as swap data between RAM and virtual memory files on a hard drive, but most of this activity remains invisible to the user." This part of the reading really pushed me to think in two different ways. The first thing I thought was that if computers can erase and create files unknowingly then do they have some sort of mind to their own? This thought, at first, scared me. I thought if computers can do things without you controlling them then they are independent in some ways. Another thought that had crossed my mind has to do with the programmer. The person that invented a Macintosh hard-drive created it to erase and create files with a mind of its own. How can someone go about creating a machine that has that much intelligence?
2. On page 65, the second paragraph, I believe discusses the idea of copy and paste. I know that everyone knows what copy and paste is and now I know it is apart of the modern GUI. My question has to deal with plagiarism. The paragraph states, "This operation (copy and paste) renders insignificant the traditional distinction between spatial and temporal media, since the user can cut and paste parts of images, regions of space, and part of a temporal compostition in exactly the same way. It is also 'blind' to traditional distinctions in scale: the user can cut and paste a single pixel, an image, or a whole digital movie in the same way". Is this part of the reading about plagiarism? If it doesn't have to do with copying pieces of artwork and changing them around then what is it about?
2. On page 65, the second paragraph, I believe discusses the idea of copy and paste. I know that everyone knows what copy and paste is and now I know it is apart of the modern GUI. My question has to deal with plagiarism. The paragraph states, "This operation (copy and paste) renders insignificant the traditional distinction between spatial and temporal media, since the user can cut and paste parts of images, regions of space, and part of a temporal compostition in exactly the same way. It is also 'blind' to traditional distinctions in scale: the user can cut and paste a single pixel, an image, or a whole digital movie in the same way". Is this part of the reading about plagiarism? If it doesn't have to do with copying pieces of artwork and changing them around then what is it about?
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
The Interface!
Manovich talks about how technology has impacted both work and leisure activities of the information society. The socialist within me couldn't resist thinking of how this contributes to class divisions. What do people who can't afford computers do? Most public libraries allow anyone with a library card to use a computer for free, but there are limitations to this. For example, I wouldn't want to look at porn or do my online banking on a public computer. Also, the library in my area only allows people to use a computer for 30 minutes at a time (if there's a line). Furthermore, so many activities I do on the computer involve reading. It would be difficult to use a search engine without being able to spell (although google does have a built-in spell check...).
So, my first question is this: Does technology help to separate rich people from poor people? In other words, are rich people getting richer and poor people getting poorer, because of the internet (and other technology)? Or, has this division always been there... because even before computers, poorer people didn't have access to the same kinds of entertainment as richer people.
My second question is this: Is the internet still "a filter for all culture" for people who don't own a computer? I mean, technology does impact advertising (and anyone can see a billboard)... but how does the interface affect society in the real world (meatspace?)?
wow. long post. sorry about that.
So, my first question is this: Does technology help to separate rich people from poor people? In other words, are rich people getting richer and poor people getting poorer, because of the internet (and other technology)? Or, has this division always been there... because even before computers, poorer people didn't have access to the same kinds of entertainment as richer people.
My second question is this: Is the internet still "a filter for all culture" for people who don't own a computer? I mean, technology does impact advertising (and anyone can see a billboard)... but how does the interface affect society in the real world (meatspace?)?
wow. long post. sorry about that.
2 questions about The Interface
I had a lot more questions concerning how the interface relates to the world but I came down to these two but there's a lot of follow up questions that I'll not bore you with.
1. If "all culture, past and present, came to be filtered through a computer", is it merely the relationship or the interface between the user and the computer that filters it or is it literally the computer the "medium" that ultimately filters it like languages/words argued by Whorf and Derrida?
2. The paper argues that "the interface imposes its own logic on media"; however, can't we say that the people such as computer programmers and artist who makes the logic and makes operations as the 'cut and paste' operation is imposing their own logics and 'models of the world' to the user?
I thought some of the arguments and debate Manovich talked about relates a lot with just art in general such as the subject of concept-interface and concept-form he talked about. Interesting paper.
1. If "all culture, past and present, came to be filtered through a computer", is it merely the relationship or the interface between the user and the computer that filters it or is it literally the computer the "medium" that ultimately filters it like languages/words argued by Whorf and Derrida?
2. The paper argues that "the interface imposes its own logic on media"; however, can't we say that the people such as computer programmers and artist who makes the logic and makes operations as the 'cut and paste' operation is imposing their own logics and 'models of the world' to the user?
I thought some of the arguments and debate Manovich talked about relates a lot with just art in general such as the subject of concept-interface and concept-form he talked about. Interesting paper.
Tuesday, August 28, 2007
em's links, finally!
My dad started black white read, which is a business that creates neighborhood newspapers. It's very new and only has one running right now. It started with our neighborhood, Lakewood, and is expanding in Dallas.
I did it. Yes!
My dad probably appreciates this.
Monday, August 27, 2007
leet.
This is the George foreman grill, Jeremy found it n the internet. the internet is where Jeremy likes to go for happiness and laughing. The internet is where Jeremy also views some of his favorite things, like awesomeness, the spider king, and Ralphie goes to hell.
i did the links on my first post wrong...
Sometimes, I read the news
People can send their secrets to this website.
I spend way too much time on facebook.
People can send their secrets to this website.
I spend way too much time on facebook.
link stuff
A sweet website to check out of a notable illustrator. Watch the Zombie movie at this link. Some more artwork to look at by an amazing artist here. The drawing you are looking at I like to call Bush botches thumbs up. Miscellaneous.
Favorite Places
My four favorite websites to visit, at the moment, are:
~facebook so that i can keep up my social circles
~mtv ...i live on that channel, lol
~youtube cuz its freaking ridiculous!
~dictionary because i can't spell for sugar honey iced tea
~facebook so that i can keep up my social circles
~mtv ...i live on that channel, lol
~youtube cuz its freaking ridiculous!
~dictionary because i can't spell for sugar honey iced tea
Justin's Awesomeer Than Ryan's Link's
Ronaldinho's touch on the ball, soccer ball, AMAZING!
I love movies.
Because I lost myself here.
This is Sinbad...
I love movies.
Because I lost myself here.
This is Sinbad...
sabrina's favorite websites
I am in love with Chuck Close so I like going to his website. This summer I went to Lollapalooza, so i went to their website often to look at the schedule and find out information about the bands there. I like the website because it gives a synopsis of the artist, as well as a sample of their music. Lately, I have been going on Amazon to order posters and music. Well, those are my three websites.
jeff's favored sites
I was referred to a free internet radio site which i found useful in discovering new music similar to the things i like... it's called Pandora.
www.pandora.com
I'm also a fan of skype.com, where you can download Skype, an audio/video chat program between computers, free of charge.
www.pandora.com
I'm also a fan of skype.com, where you can download Skype, an audio/video chat program between computers, free of charge.
Websites You Might Enjoy
If watching Antiques Road Show makes you want to learn how to distress furniture it pays really well if you find a good clientele base.
If you're interested in learning about weird fascinating and creepy (maybe if you just see one in person) animals that are indigenous to the New England area you might want to check out information on Fisher Cats.
If you're interested in learning about weird fascinating and creepy (maybe if you just see one in person) animals that are indigenous to the New England area you might want to check out information on Fisher Cats.
Kimberly's Favorite Links
One of my favorite link is jamesjean.com. I'm sure people who are going into Illustration will know him (if you don't that's ok because I didn't know him until my junior year in high school). His blog is a lot better than his actual website. It consist of his works and sketches etc. You'll be amazed by works. He is AMAZING. He also has a collaboration 'thing' with Kenichi Hoshine called Polite Winter (I'm not sure what exactly the project is). They both went to SVA, and the only reason why I wanted to go to SVA was because they attended there. BUT, MICA is just a better school, I think. Well, that's already 4 links. There's a lot more links that I regularly go to, but I won't ramble on about all my interests. I'm really looking forward to this year and this class. Thanks for reading!
Sunday, August 26, 2007
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